Showing posts with label Turkey. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Turkey. Show all posts

Tuesday, 27 March 2012

Tour - Beartrap/Witch Cult - Greece/Turkey

Day 29/Day 30, Show 23/Show 24, Thessaloniki, Greece/Komotini, Greece

Today started off real early. I didn’t go to sleep till 5 am and we woke up at 9 am cause the dude we were staying with had to go to work. We went to the beach and I stood in the Mediterranean Sea, but it was too cold to swim/enjoy. The beach was also pretty dirty, but so are a lot of beaches in Massachusetts so I’m used to it. Then we drove to Thessaloniki. It wasn’t a bad drive and I slept thru a lot of it.

We got into town around 7 and this show, like every other show, doesn’t start till like 11:30 or something. The show is at the Biologica squat. This place is pretty interesting because it has been squatted for around over 20 years and is a room on the bottom floor of the biology department at the University of Thessaloniki. The building is still in use at the university and somehow they took this room and claimed it. It has nothing to do with the college what so ever. It’s only squatted as a venue, no one lives here. Dimitris booked the show and is a nice dude. We loaded in and ate. Had some beats, rice, lentils, and 2 different kinds of salad. After that we waited around for the show to start.


It is a Monday night so I don’t think any show should start this late on a Monday, don’t people work in Europe? SO the first band went on around 1 am. The second band played. Then Witch Cult, then BearTrap finished at around 3 am. This show would have been over by now if it was in Massachusetts, where its 9pm. It blows my mind that shows run this late. There were a lot of people here for a Monday night, over 100. I think half just stood outside the whole show. The ones that were inside were cool to us and seemed to enjoy it. They made us play more again.

I have a love/hate relationship with this. I love that people want to hear more (even tho most of the time it wouldn’t matter if it was us playing more or not, they just wanna hear more music) but I play short sets because I like playing short sets and hate bands that play for too long. In a typical United States punk show if you play more than 15/20 minutes people usually get bored and start to leave. In Europe they always look at me weird when I say we only play for 10 minutes. Funny how different things can be in the same genre of music.

After the show we went to the squat we were staying at and went to sleep. Woke up at 2 pm today. Then we drove around and found a grocery store. After that we drove to Komotini. When we told other people in Greece we were playing in Komotini they asked “why?” and said, “No one ever plays there. Do they even have shows?” or stuff like that. So I was skeptical about this show from the start. We get to the venue and it is at the University of Komotini. The room we will be playing in is a lecture hall. The room next to it is a squatted anarchist meeting room. Again, at a University, in a building that is still being used, punks stole a room. Priceless. When we got shown the lecture hall I asked if the school knew about the shows and let them happen. I was told that “they know about the shows, they don’t let them happen, but they have stopped locking the doors because they know that people will break in and have the show anyway”. That’s pretty crazy. Also, in case you didn’t know, police have no jurisdiction on any college campus in Greece. It’s where people go to learn and sell drugs/commit crimes.

Before the show we have some fruit and pasta. Then we load in. I propose the idea of not playing on the stage, but playing in the corner so people can stand in front and do whatever they want. The people doing the show (there are too many to name) didn’t quite understand me so we played on the floor facing one of the 3 groupings of seats. There were a lot of people at the show, over 75 I’d say. Of course it didn’t start till 11:45 and the first band played for AN HOUR. A whole fucking hour. They were a post rock band with no vocals, and actually probably my favorite band we have played with all tour, but they played way too long. After them the 2nd band played and was an alternative rock band. I was beginning to think punk rock was not too common here. I thought there were only 2 bands playing before us so we set up to play. By this time about 3/4ths of the people at the show had left. During the first 2 bands everyone sat in the seats. That didn’t change for Witch Cult or Beartrap. I even asked them before we played “who comes to a punk rock show to sit in a chair” and then invited them to come down with us and hang out while we played. Not 1 single person did. I told them this is the most awkward show we have ever played. I wonder if they understood that? After that another band started to set up. I had no clue another band was playing. They sounded like The Casualties song Punk Rock Love. After the show we packed up and waited around to go to where we were staying.


I am here now, laying in bed typing this. One of the worst parts about this tour is the language barrier when I have to tell people they can’t use our stuff. Most of the promoters asked me before the tour if locals could use our stuff. I told them that “the tour is really long and we are afraid that equipment will start breaking (and the guitar head did break already, luckily it was fixed), so if locals could please bring their own stuff that would be cool.” I think people have borrowed stuff at every show. This isn’t that bad, its usually just parts of the drums (toms and bass drum) or cabs, but when I have to argue with people who don’t speak my language about not using our cymbals, snare, or guitar heads without sounding like an asshole, it gets pretty frustrating. This happens more often than not and sometimes I think they wanna kill me when it does.

Day 31/Show 25/Istanbul, Turkey

So today sucks. We didn’t get to sleep till about 5 am and woke up early to deal with the border. Now there are 2 major border crossings from Greece to Turkey. Our gps told us to go to the one that was about an hour further away from us. On a map it looks like a way bigger border crossing so we thought it would be the best bet. 3 hours later we are at a small hut on the border of the 2 countries with 1 border patrol officer. He tells us that we need a green card for the van (a term we have heard a lot and never had to get, yet.) He then tells us we can only get it at the border crossing we were closer to early in the day. So we head back toward where we came. On our way to that border we didn’t get hassled once, didn’t even see any cops. On our way back south to get the green card we got stopped twice. Once the cops asked for our passports and then told us to have a nice day and to do what they tell us in Istanbul. Literally 2 minutes later 2 different cops pull us over. They ask what we are doing and are positive we have drugs. I don’t know how many fucking times, in how many ways you can ask if someone has drugs and not get that they aren’t gonna tell you even if they did have drugs (of course we don’t). So after that he takes all of us out of the van one at a time and searches all of us. Some he is harsher with. He is particularly harsh with me. I think it’s because of my short one word answers and my general distaste for being fucked with by cops. He takes off my hat, stares into it like it’s a fucking crystal ball, and the ruffles my hair to see if I have drugs in my hair. After that he aggressively takes everything out of my pockets where he finds the money bag. I instantly think he is gonna steal at least half of what we have. He scratches all the money to see if its counterfeit /has drugs on it. He then gives it all back to me and proceeds to aggressively search pockets he has already emptied. He demands what I still have something in my pocket when I don’t. Bluntly I tell him “ No, I don’t” then he checks my legs for weapons, much like an airport or venue pat down. He then full on grabs my dick and shifts it around. At this point he tells me to turn around, aggressively goes thru my back pockets and wallet. After he takes my shoes and beats them against the ground he asks if there is any other money in the van and says, “I don’t wanna get blamed for taking it.” We grab whatever is in the van and he only goes thru my bag. Unfolds everything and leaves it half unzipped with shit falling out of it. Thanks, Asshole. Then he asks about drugs again and says, “today you are lucky. Don’t come back from Turkey with any weed of ecstacy or anything.” Another cop tries to shoot the shit with us and talk about what kind of music we play. A few blunt 1 word answers later and we are out of there. I’m really glad we didn’t get extorted but fuck those dudes. If you’re gonna grab my dick you better make me cum.

Then we headed to the border of Turkey, 3 hours and loads of gas wasted. Now we sit at this border and get passed around to different officers. ! looks at our passports, one charges 15 euros each (90 total) to be in the country. Then we get sent back to the first guy so he can stamp our visas. Then the next people look at all our shit and then we have to go to a 5th person for our green card for the van. When they say Green Card it really trips me out. In the United States a green card is what you need to obtain to become a citizen. The green card for the van cost 90 more euro. So today so far we have spent 180 to be in Turkey for less than 24 hours, 110 euro on gas that most got wasted because of shitty technology.

We are gonna get to the show right on time (4 hours late for “load in” tho) and it starts at 11:30. Out of all the places we were going Istanbul was the one I wanted to spend some time in. Thanks to bad technology, shitty cops, and shitty border patrol I will see the 4 walls of the van, the 4 walls of the venue and the 4 walls of the place we are sleeping. Thanks to all contributing factors. So we finally get to Istanbul and I think it’s the biggest city ever. We drove thru what looked like a really populated downtown for like 20 minutes. Then we got to the main strip and right there was the club we were playing, Peyote.


Uger from Neglected booked the show and they played first. They were fucking awesome. I also like his old band, Ultimate Blowup. After that Witch Cult played and everyone got down. Same for BearTrap. The room was small and pretty full. I liked this show a lot. I wanna wake up early and check out Istanbul before we head to Bulgaria tomorrow. I doubt it’ll happen tho. After the show we drove to the apartment we were staying in, which was in Asia. It didn’t even occur to me that I was anywhere near Asia till we were crossing the bridge to Asia. When we got to the apartment I went to sleep.

Thursday, 14 April 2011

Blog - Wargasm Collective



Wargasm (Collective) Kolektif is a non-profit DIY organization team from Istanbul and looking forward to book non-profit punk bands worldwide for help Istanbul punk scene keep alive and politically active.
Up till now we arranged lots of local punk gigs in Istanbul era includes Oi Polloi, The Restarts, Disorder and Daily od.
We try to improve the Punk/HC/Crust/Thrash etc scene in Turkey especially in Istanbul, we try to create alternatives and change the scene to political.”

Monday, 5 April 2010

Turkey 4


Turkey 3

I don't like turkish hc because a lot of them are poseurs and there are no sXe bands.
But I love some of them...

Malazlar
Radical Noise RIP
Kranch RIP
Self Torture

There's also an old band Ask It Why. I didn't see them in your blog.

Take care.

Thursday, 25 February 2010

Turkey 3

Turkey 2



This is Berk from Truth We Defend. First of all we are not a tough band :) We are not machos. Anyway we are not active now but we were not posing we were playing what we fucking liked.

Anyway here are some bands for you:

Lifelock
10 year old hc/punk band from Istanbul. They released an album called ''Under Pressure.'' The best of the best I think.

Never Reach Home (2008)
A new band from two members of TWD. They are playing fast poppunk/hc. Guys you must really check these fellas.

You Name It I Hate It
Fastcore since 2007 and they have released a demo tape.

Ultimate Blowup
Ultimate Blowup was formed in late 2008 and they got the band started in 2009 to play what they like so much. It has ex and current members of shit loads of bands and projects like Truth We Defend, Sakatat, Rott-Fish, Decaying Pürity (the grindcore one, in 2003), Circuits Made Flesh, Never Reach Home, You Name It I Hate It, Stevan Flipovic etc.

Sakatat
Grindcore band From Bursa. They are playing since 2006 or 2007 I think. They have toured Europe twice. They played in Obscene Extreme and have had lots of CDs, 7 inches etc.

Poster-ITI
Punk band playing since 2003 .

Malazlar
Malazlar is a fast hc/punk band from Ankara. They have a demo called ''Abolishing The Borders From Below'' which you can download.

Standback
Streetcore band and playing since 2007 I think. They have two demos you can download.

Ofisboyz
Another streetcore band from İstanbul but they are fucking dead now.

Street Dukes
Another band from the tough hardcore trend that's around these days.

I hope this will work for you, take care.

BTW Check Berk's blog...

Thursday, 18 February 2010

Turkey 2

Turkey 1

First of all, for turkish hc punk history (1978-1999) I can suggest An Interrupted History of Punk and Underground Resources...

For mp3s, basic information etc. you can use the blog Clouds of Cancer

If you ask me, the best hc bands in Turkey, I would suggest to check these bands:

Radical Noise RIP

Kranch RIP

You can use Noizine!


Actually, it's not a good time for turkish hardcore because a lot of people are angry and bored working on it because of the lack of interest. Most of the zines, bands, distros are not doing anything at this time.

The last big concert in Turkey was Oi Polloi at Resist Fest and there was not enough tickets for costs (band's travel costs, sound systems etc) but I hope it will be better this year but I'm not sure. So, we are not in good mood at this time about hardcore :)

Monday, 28 December 2009

Turkey 1


Thanks to Armağan for this information

Our scene is not so good unfortunately. There is a small crew which listens to hardcore music in our city, Ankara (the capital city of Turkey). I don't know every dude who listens to hardcore in our city but every concert I see the same people =)

Most of the concerts are organized in the same places. Mostly, these are too small venues but there is a good and warm atmosphere. We support local bands as much as we can. Bands help each other, also at the same time there is competition between them. I like that because they work on improving themselves to be better than each other. of course, this is a good thing for listeners like myself =)

Check:
Radical Noise RIP (1992-2002), they have two albums in 1996 and 1999.

Antisilence RIP (?-2003), they have two albums too in 1995 and 2000.

Something's Wrong (1992-?) they have one album in 1998.

These bands, especially Radical Noise and Antisilence, have some Turkish melodies and Turkish political effects on their music.

Nowadays, Self Torture is the biggest band in our scene. They have three albums since 2002. Their sound is different from other hardcore bands. Their music is influenced by some death metal figures but it is not like deathcore.


Truth We Defend RIP (from Istanbul) and Mosh Pit Project (from İzmir) are new bands in our scene but they are tough bands too. (This is what Berk from TWD said about this...)

Other than these bands, metalcore has been popular our scene for 3 years.
Turkish bands and musicians are coming from behind according to the world =)

Our bands don't have a specific sound which is special to our country but our listeners have particular moves. We dance too in concerts but this is not like mosh or circle pit, it is like fighting between us =) Unfortunately, concerts are not crowded. Because of this, stage diving is impossible. I can't say that hardcore is popular like in other countries. Most people in Turkey listen to thrash metal, heavy metal or death metal. I complain about this situation but people don't mind us :/ You can understand that even hardcore listeners are too limited and there are not enough people who are straight edge.

Sometimes, hardcore is more than music for us. We use it to tell people our political thoughts or to share our pain in life. For myself, hardcore is always more than music. It is a lifestyle. Especially being straight edge is hard in our country. No one understands what we are, also they don't know the meaning of being straight edge. This situation is ridiculous but I do not mind it anymore =) It is all about our country and our scene.

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